Michael O'Brien, NBC News
Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney embraced Bill Clinton's speech this week at the Democratic National Convention, saying the former president's speech — which was full of criticism of Romney — helped "elevate" Democrats' convention.
In his interview airing Sunday on NBC's "Meet the Press," Romney praised the Wednesday night speech by the Democratic ex-president, which ridiculed Romney and Republican vice presidential candidate Paul Ryan on issues ranging from fiscal policy to Medicare.
"He did stand out in contrast with the other speakers; I think he really did elevate the Democrat convention in a lot of ways," Romney said. "And, frankly, the contrast may not have been as attractive as Barack Obama might have preferred if he were choosing who'd go before him and who'd go after."
Clinton's speech was regarded as one of the highlights of the Democratic convention; he formally nominated President Obama for a second term, and his folksy speech built up the current president while simultaneously taking Romney to task. But as Romney suggested, Clinton's speech drew as much interest as Obama's among political observers, and Romney seemed to suggest the former president even overshadowed the current one.
But Clinton's criticism hasn't previously deterred Romney from embracing the former Democratic president. He's praised Clinton on the campaign trail as a centrist, as if to portray Obama as governing well to the left of Clinton.
Romney's tack is an implicit acknowledgement of Clinton's broad popularity, a sentiment the GOP presidential nominee joked would probably propel Clinton to a third term in the White House, if it were legal.
Asked whether Clinton could be elected president today, Romney responded: "If the constitution weren't in his way, yeah. Perhaps. But I don't know the answer to that."
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Wow did Romney just concede the election, sounds like it to me.
Willard definitely implies he, Ryan, and the other uninspired speakers at the GOP convention dragged it down. That is especially true of the poor, senile old man they propped up at the podium to have an incoherent argument with unoccupied furniture, too.
Now that I think about it, maybe Romney actually is conceding the election. It's all over but President Obama's victory celebration, any way.
Sailcat - show some respect. You should refer to him as Mister Willard. After all we refer to POTUS as President Hussein.
Where was George and Cheney to help him elevate the GOP. They are running from them as they ruined the USA They poppyshows would like to embrace Billy Boy. Billy boy knows they are a total mess he cleaned up older Bush mess and now Obama has been cleaning up George junior stinky mess .
That is precisely why normal people don't give you any eye contact when you amble around town, Kannin. You share too many of your insane fantasies.
Where can the moderate Republicans go? Home?
Mr. President, I'm sorry you are not Bill Clinton -- not even close.
Moderate Republicans have made a new home in the Democratic Party. The GOP abandoned the center in it's hysterical zeal in cultivating the support of the right wing lunatic fringe. They will reap the bitter harvest of their ill-considered decision in November when the GOP's center throws its support behind Obama.
It sounds like Romney just conceded the election to me, too, Forrest. But isn't it still a bit early to be conceding it? It is kind of odd, though, that he would be praising a speech that gave the lie to everything the Republicans stand for.
Yes, he apparently is conceding. China will probably move to cash in the chits in the next few years, medicare & social security benefits will simply cease to exist as the country nears bankruptcy. Unfortunately, any new jobs that were created over the past few years will begin laying off as the Fast Food industry begins shuttering restaurants. Remember; You Get What You Elect!!!
Sailcat-2064101
Repectfully, I sincerely think your assessment is way of the mark. No respectable moderate Republican would even consider supporting Obama and his extremist liberal policies. Had you said moderate Republicans would or could support a Bill or Hillary Clinton I would have to say “possibly.” Had you suggested they could support the Democratic Party of yore again I would say “possible.”
Your Democratic Party of today is so extreme and outrageously liberal that fewer and fewer moderate Democrats of the past will vote that way in this election. My parents, their friends, relatives and close associates, both in OH and FL, who grew up with Roosevelt, Truman and Kennedy and thought a great deal of “Bill” have been life-long Democrats and or moderate Republicans do not recognize the party as it is.
They gave Obama a try the last time based on the promise of hope. They have since been sorely disappointed and very perplexed by his liberal positions on abortion, same sex marriage, Illegals, Israel, increasing national debt, questionable cabinet members and of course not the least of all the economy and unemployment.
My non-scientific and perhaps silly "sample group" covers only a small segment of America. However, but I can't imagine several generations of just plain average Democrats and moderate Republicans in many other states being terrible different.
I will not be offended if you wish to consider my assessment as bizarre. Generally, I am a very good observer of people and can accurately gauge their attitudes and feelings after talking to them. However, I also realize I can bewrong. I will finish by saying the Obama Democratic Party, has an inflexible ideological bent and is not as representative of the mainstream as many might think. Buzz
Just
my thought and I guess neither of will know for sure until November.
So, Romney is admitting that his campaign will be influenced by fact checkers! Three cheers for Bill Clinton, the explainer-in-chief!
Wow! MITT ROMNEY just CONCEDED the ELECTION.
It's on all the SOCIAL MEDIA and on all the BLOGS.
Goes to show that: "The WEEDS of CRIME do NOT PAY".
All us INDEPENDENTS and us FREEDOM LOVING AMERICANS, and us UNDECIDED VOTERS and all us FEDERAL EMPLOYEES and SENIOR CITIZENS and RETIREES living in FLORIDA all saw the the known LIAR, admitted TAX CHEAT, and probable FELON that MITT ROMNEY was and is!
Let's face it. MITT ROMNEY stole MILLIONS of DOLLARS of PENSION FUNDS, which he then LAUNDRIED in his phony CAYMAN ISLAND shell companies, where he could then HIDE his ill-gotten Loot in his hidden SWISS BANK ACCOUNTS so he wouldn't have to PAY TAXES for over TEN YEARS.
Plus he want s to INCREASE the MILITARY so he can wage NUCLEAR WAR with the RUSSIANS.
Thanks, but No thanks.
Glad he told us all on Meet the Press.
What a Fool he is!
With equal respect, I know you're wrong. The GOP has taken a hard turn to starboard in the past few years and they have staked a claim in the hinterlands of the extreme right wing lunatic fringe. The center is concerned about the economy, yes, but we are equally worried about social issues and the Republican Party has consistently shown themselves to be selfish, intolerant, and all too frequently downright bigoted. Tax cuts are fine until they only benefit the rich. Furthermore, middle America does not embrace the hateful political ideology of the current Republican Party and neither would the elder statesmen of the old GOP like Eisenhower, Dirksen, nor even Reagan. The GOP has gone too far in searching for the right wing lunatic fringe and the formerly-Republican moderate voting bloc will inevitably drift to President Obama just as "Reagan Democrats" supported The Great Communicator in 1980. Moreover, I think this election will be debated and picked apart for years to come in poli-sci classes in major Universities across the country as how the GOP blew its chances of winning this election by trying to flank the Democrats by going wide to the right...and going way too far out of bounds to make any sense to the American people.
President Obama will be reelected. Read 'em and weep.
Conceding? Dream on. Obama has to weather the landslide of Romney commercials hitting the media.
Sailcat-2064101
I guess a positive attitude and confidence is important in regard to things that
you can influence and change. Unfortunately, I am not so willing as you appear
to go out on a limb and bet the family fortune on such uncertainties. I am glad
to see you taking such a strong position and be so certain. Perhaps your strong
advocacy will do the trick and save Mr Obama. Unfortunately, as in any predictive
effort we will not know until we know. No doubt this election will take many
strange twists and turns and will be ever-changing. We can talk as polls come
out and then a final time in November.
I know Sailcat addressed this above. I actually do feel the pain that those that have been Republican all of their lives are confused as to where to go. Jon Huntsman would have represented your party so much better and with so much more dignity. He understands foreign policy. But, and it's a big BUT, your party chose Mitt. And Mitt, through all of the primary debates, only showed that he is the biggest of bullies. I seriously do wish there was a viable contendor from the GNOP. The Presidential debates will be great, and I for one will be thankful for a nice cup of tea and a warm blanket when the President mops the floor with Mitt.
Obama/Biden 2012
Good to see a republican that can admit when he's getting his a$$ whooped!
Sailcat
To properly describe Romney would be fiscal conservative, Socially moderate to conservative.
The business credentials are quite phenominal. An 80% suscess rate in saving failing businesses is the best of all venture capitalists.
In the Democratic convention one of the Obama advocates slammed Romney for the layoffs at Behring Company. Yes, there were significant layoffs, but that is not the whole story. The merger did not make all the needed changes to be profitable. That is why the bankrupcy became necessary. Today Behring Company experiences record profits and now has more employees than when the filed for bankruptcy.
Saying less than the whole story is nothing more than being deceitful.
He's also a liar and a cheat. To pretend he's something better than that goes beyond disingenuous and treads deep into the territory of the preposterous.
Got any proof? I have lots of links to the rest of the stories on nearly every accusation that has risen on him.
Romney lied on no fewer than seven state and federal financial disclosure reports.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/jul/10/robert-gibbs/democrats-say-mitt-romney-failed-disclose-offshore/
He lied when he claimed to have retired from Bain Capital in 1999.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/20/opinion/karmel-romney-bain/index.html
He cheated by claiming blind trusts are a "ruse" then proceeded to put his finances in a blind trust managed by his buddies at Bain Capital.
http://finance.fortune.cnn.com/2012/01/24/romneys-blind-trust-ruse/
http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/purdum/2012/07/mitt-romney-age-old-ruse-blind-trust
Romney is a liar, a cheat, and a thief. We have established the first two points. It's only a matter of time before he is busted red handed on the third.
Read 'em and weep, DB.
I believe everything i read by the liberal media and on the internet oh wait you have some twisted support to san francisco that explains it all
To pretend President Obma is not intent on destroying this country and dragging it down to the level of socialist europe that goes beyond disingenuous and treads deep into the territory of the preposterous
I love it when the simplest hint of debate, even respectful debate, on a topic will get deleted (#1.10 ) by liberals. That is the kind of tactics so often displayed by them regardless of the forum or topic. it does not bode well for open discussion, free speech or a free America. It is not just the Republicans who have their fascists.
PolitiFact, CNN, Fortune Magazine, etc. are somewhat more credible sources than the right wing neo-fascist zombie sites you cling to, David. Your insane fantasies are more entertaining to you than the truth, I'm sure. but the only deluded person who believes those wild hallucinations is you.
Two words: get help.
I agree with you regarding collapsed posts. It happens on both sides of the discussion, however, and it interferes with civil discourse. I wish everyone would stop it.
Well, Romney's party has two living presidents to "elevate" their convention. Where were they? The repubs preach a balanced budget, but never deliver. Dems do balance, Clinton did, and Obama will if given a chance. Vote out every single Republican now!
Daniel, I am so TIRED of you tirades and posts ... you never commit to anything of yourself but you've so got the linking concept down ...
What the crap does that mean??? Liars in Charge of Change??? Leading a change of liars??? Liars that can create a change???
I so hope you had a LOVELY Labor Day and realized that Unions are responsible for 40 hour work weeks and 8 hour days .... and those men and women fought hard for that right.
Obama/Biden 2012 - the party that can tell the truth about their marathons ... and they don't put their dogs on the top of their cars . . . .
Let's just hope we haven't become such a nation of takers and non-workers that we allow an incompetent, failed socialist so suck people into believing his lies, so he can continue to destroy our country, trying to remake it in his socialist ideal. Heaven will have to take a big hand in helping us if we're foolish enough to let this liar and socialist continue to downgrade this country. Romney/Ryan 2012
“today I’m pledging to cut the deficit we inherited in half by the end of my first term in office."
"every bill be available on line for five days before I sign it"
"shovel ready jobs turned out to be not so shovel ready"
So which candidate has a RECORD of "misquotes"? Keep drinking the Kool-Aid for another four years, folks. Maybe we can hit $20T in debt and reach 15% unemployment nationwide by the time its over.
Enacted Romney Care and opposes Obama Care...which is it? How will he govern?
Says he will be more pro gay than Kennedy and now he is even against the end of DADT..which is? Where does he stand?
One of the earlier posters said the GOP chose Romney rather than a centrist like Huntsman. I get the point, but I'm afraid that in reality, the GOP chose the Koch Brothers and their colleagues. These guys aren't giving their hundreds of millions of dollars to someone unless they're sure he will play their hand for them. Their business goals far overshadow any concern they have for the people of this country. Their mission is relatively simple; eliminate any taxes and regulations that will impact them and their businesses. Now, if anyone can visualize what the country would look like if that comes to fruition and not be just a little worried, then God help them. Better yet, can anyone explain how that scenario would benefit the US in any way?
DB Akron...I have no problem if a company has to go bankrupt in this economy..That said..a good number of the companies Romney and his company Bain took bankrupt were in a good ecomony..and Romney and his company made milions from it. What was the real purpose of creating more debt on a company that was having problems to begin with..other than making sure you got your pay from it. LEts not forget either the jobs he and his compnay outsourced to other country's for profit...with no consideration at all to this country and its hard workers. Yet , Romney is now saying he wants to bring those jobs back..that alone will be interesting to see done..because lobbyist from business like Romneys paid for the trade deals that allow them to go elsewhere and get tax breaks for doing so..and trade zones to bring those goods back. LEts also not forget that there are no equal trade deals..each one has cost this country thousands of jobs alone.
Daniel's cut and paste is an op-ed piece by some character whose byline includes the statement, "I apply unconventional logic to economic issues." I think we can safely ignore Daniel and his desperate, but failed, attempt to make a genuine point.
Bill Clinton's speech was one of the best convention speeches in history. I think the the base is finally fired up and ready to go! Obama 2012. Hillary 2016.
Romney's last chance will most likely be the first debate. It's do or die for the robot.
dksouthern - "the GOP chose the Koch Brothers and their colleagues."
There was no "choice." The Koch Brothers bought the GOP, grabbed the steering wheel, and slammed the party into a hard right tailspin. Never mind the middle class, middle America, or the middle of the Bell Curve (which is where this election will be won). And the GOP party leaders took the money, and throttled down.
I spent two years in Wichita, Kansas ("Koch Kountry"), working for a federal judge. Except for my boss, that was the longest decade of my life. There are good and abundant reasons it's called flyover territory. But apparently it's the new Mecca for the GOP.
The Koch Brothers, Grover Norquist and Adelson will tell Romney when to concede, and it isn't yet.
They still have $111 Million dollars to burn through.
I miss Tim Russert. He wouldn't allow such vapid responses. Gregory is such a lightweight.
Yeah, me too.
Tim is missed by conservatives as well as democrats. Losing him was such a downgrade.
Can't wait for Luke Russert to be deemed old enough to get that show, Tim Russert's son is an up and comer, he"s very bright and even more important he has a since of humor.
Nice to see there may be a light at the end of the tunnel. The current crop is pretty lame.
Romney, concede? No. Stop being so desperate democrats, you know your President is on the run.
So let me get this strait you guys hate all the negative ads, but you get mad when some one shows some class and is nice? He says a nice thing about Clinton, and says his party made mistakes, this just sounds like he is being honest.
Uninspiring is the best way to discribe the GOP convention. They are the party of old white men and it shows. They didn't look like they had near the fun that the dems did. Plus Clinton had the facts.
The empty chair was significant, yes, just like the empty heads of the GOPhers's
The democrats have Clinton and republicans have Clint.
The democrats can't even run a convention. What a joke. Don't have to wonder why the country is in such trouble.
Looks like you got it backwards. Romney and his RNC staff could't manage their own convention. How can Romney manage in the WH - oh I forgot, Romney will confer with the Koch Bros before making any decision.
Well that was pretty classy of Romney. Respectable.
Hey Bobnstuff, I'm an old white man and the GOP is not my party. Let's not generalize so much.
Mmmm looks to me like he's just trying to curry favor with indep/undecided who also like Clinton. It makes it OK for them to like Clinton AND vote for Romney.
I think that's the tactic Romney is trying to use, Kris. Do you think it's working?
The man is using Nixonian methodology to lure voters Heee heee
I think Mitty is positioning himself to be Secretary of wanna-be-president in the Obama administration. There is such a position, right?
The tactic won't help Romney if independents go beyond the superficial association ("Clinton = good president" + "Romney likes Clinton" causing undecided voters to conclude: "Romney = good president") and actually consider what Clinton said (because his speech effectively dismantled the Romney/Ryan campaign message).
And Obama was using the Jimmy Carter approach (part of his speech was identical to Carters).
Does he really not realize that Clinton ripped him to shreds with a smile ? Can he really be that dumb?
No he just thinks the average voter is dumb, really dumb.
Yes! He's really that dumb. If you cut the top of his head off and used a spoon to scrape the inside of his head you couldn't get a t-spoon of brains. This type of guy thinks relies on everone being dumber than he. But he will find out in November that we are smarter than the average bear.
Rburn, you should be so dumb. Let's see...ran a successful company, check. Served successfully as Republican Governor in a Democrat state, check. Coordinated an unexpectedly successful Winter Olympics, check. Note the word "success"? Would that Mr. Obama had had a scintilla of the success in his 4 year term as Mr. Romney has enjoyed in the last 20 years. I suppose it just goes to show that the average bear is not all that smart...
@bill, really my friend, really, Obama has had not one scintilla of success, well first of all that is the issues of far right wingers, I mean no matter what obama do he will never be acknowledge for doing it, I mean if he found a cure for cancer the far right wingers complaint would be he didn't find one for the common cold, lets see, pass health care (whether you like it or not,), credit card reform, saved the auto industry, got rid of don't ask, don't tell, the death of osama bin laden, (yeah the navy seals did the actual dead but he had to take the risk in authorizing to going into a foreign country to do it..that is a president call, and if bush or rommney had made the call they would be praised for it, etc..his accomplishment are to numerous to name, and actually this post is not for you because you wont acknowledge it also, but for others to read....the sad thing is you hate obama because the people who you follow, the limbaughs, hannity, etc hate obama, and thats make you a parrot, a follower, a non-thinker who can come up with factual information, not just info from those who dislike him
@Bill in PA
Made "Obamacare" in Mass. before Obama made "Obamacare" Nationwide, check!
But now he opposes "Obamacare".....just how flip-floppy can one get???
Successful?? His favorability polls while govener went down, down, down while Governor.. Obama has a 20% lead in the polls in this race. Some say it's because it's a Democratic state..
But, it does vote sometimes Republican.. It voted for Romney when he was a very central Republican, before he was replaced by Romneybot.. If they thought he did a decent job, why wouldn't they support him again, knowing he was so successful??.. Answer... He was horrid!!!
Bain was by buying a company loading it up with loans, taking the money from the loans, and bankrupting the company.. In other words "Bank robbery"..
Olympics was probably his best, but it cost the US taxpayers $609 million.
Darrell - shoe doesn't feel so good when it gets put on the other foot, now does it?
Taz
Healthcare is a states right and responsibility, not the federal one. Massachusetts Health care needs and costs are far diffent than say Alaska, Hawaii, Califoria, Florida, or Texas. A one nation plan fits all is a huge mistake.
I really don't think the States should be running Health insurance either, but it is their right if the voters in that state want it done that way.
.Obama the promise BREAKER!! Equals a LIAR!!! BIG EMBARRASSMENT to the USA!!!
Obama’s promise that his healthcare proposals would “never be purchased with [a] tax increase on middle-class families.” The SUPREME COURT & JUSTICE DEPT say it is a TAX!!! .Attack on the middle Class! Taxation by misrepresentation---the LARGEST TAX in World History!!! Does he remove the tax part????....NO!!!
…….…NOW Obama wants to invade Syria and Iran!!!
..mr. American businessman..YOU DID NOT MAKE THAT!! It was stolen from the back of the worker---PURE MARXISM!!...this is PURE
…ANTI-American…tell it to Ford or Steve Jobs or the Mom& POP store on the corner>>>How is it that NON taxpayers built an Infrastructure??
Remember these?
THE OBAMA CHRONICLES:
“I promise 100% transparency in my administration.”.
“I promise NO NEW TAXES on a family making less than $250K a year.”.
“I will allow 5 days of public comment before I sign any bills.”.
“I will remove earmarks from PORK projects before I sign any bill.”.
“I will end Income Tax for seniors making less than $50K a year.”.
"I will bring ALL of our troops home within ONE year."
“I’ll put the Health Care negotiations on CSPAN so everyone can see who is at the table!”.
“I’ll have no lobbyists in my administration."
"I'll close Guantanamo."
"I'll resign if I don't cut the deficit in half by the end of four years."
"I'll unite the people of this great country."
“The TROOPS will be home for CHRISTMAS.” WHY ARE MORE LEAVING EVERYDAY???? AND DYING every day…
NOW Obama invokes Executive Privilege( as a Sen. called it’s use a RUSE!) for Holder on GUN SMUGGLING and killing US Agent Brain Terry!!! That only applies if Obama was part of it!! Obama & Holder should be on trial for giving Machine Guns to the Mexican Drug cartels!!
BETTER KNOWN AS LIES.
Fool me once shame on YOU!
Fool me twice shame on ME!
Even Joe BIDEN has endorsed ROMNEY for Prez!!!!
BozoHussan=Chicago MOB politics=NBC=GE= no taxes from the bought and paid for cronies ==twist every crises toward Pravda PressPROPAGANDA!!
Border Joe,
I think you know better than to take Biden seriously!
Do not forget that "Mr. I did not have sex with that girl" looked right into the camera and LIED to the American people!!!! We became a laughing stock to the world after that episode!
And you give someone like this credit because he did a fine speech? Consider the source people!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't forget that Romney/Ryan look right into the camera and LIE EVERY SINGLE DAY!!!
Romney is bought and paid for....and can't make a decision for himself because he changes his opinion everyday depending on which group he is talking with....and when he does make a decision, a dog ends up on the roof of a car terrified or a classmate gets a free haircut he didn't want all because he looked different! ROMNEY CAN NOT BE TRUSTED! OBAMA2012!!!
Clinton is a buffoon. But he is so far above Obama that he did elevate the DNC.
He elevated the DNC and lowered Romney in one breath!
Yep, you're a Romney/Ryan voter all right. Like you, R&R are willing to say anything they think will persuade voters and they are not about to let the truth dictate their campaign message.
kannin, quit commenting and go back to playing with your coloring books
hey kannin get your head out of your ass ! all of you racist red necks have nothing better to do than destroy the country so no one else can enjoy it . If you hate america that much then you should consider going somewhere else ... may be switzerland like Michelle Bachman . Face it the country is changing and soon the white power will be a thing of the past . The sooner you accept this fact the better it will serve you . America first belongs to the native americans , mexicans and by the grace of god to those who will serve it .You racist red necks can't continue to drag the rest of us down .
do you realize how stupid you sound.@ 3d world pretty much sums it up.
You are absolutely correct...I did not like Bill Clinton but he is so far right of Obama it isn't funny. Romney showed class with that remark and the Liberal benchmark for success has the bar set so low that a hack like Obama can get elected only when all the stars are aligned just so. Well, those out of whack stars are starting to get back into place and universe is beginning to find its' equilibrium once again. Gallup showed their fear of the administration after they were threatened and went into a totally laughable 49/45 on their poll, which they have had Obama ahead the entire past months. The other polls tell a different story, and the Colorado study that predicted the past 8 elections including Obama's election calls for a landslide in Romney's favor. Ignore it at your peril.
As I read the comments on here all I see is the desperation of the left, the comments have no validity and the ignorant remarks about a concession? Really guys...that some nice satire but you all know where this is headed. Truthfully, Romney oozes class, knowledge and gravitas of levels that Obama could only dream. His successes won't be ignored by the voters even while you all denigrate them. His Governorship of Mass and the healthcare bill there was a response to his voter wishes so as a good Governor he let them have it...it sucks let me tell you and the majority of American's hate Obamacare and he will repeal it. Also, while I'm at it, if you believe Romney really is in favor of OBAMACARE...they you would vote for him. As for a flip flopper, unlike many of you, as you demonstrate by your continual voting for lefty losers like Obama, at least Romney knows when a bad idea is a bad idea and can change his mind. Wish some of you could figure that out with Obuttnugget, as it's bad enough you couldn't see it coming the first time.
So, go ahead, let's hear your deep words of wisdom now refuting what I say...never mind...all I really expect is more of what Obama operates off, sophmoric statements, anecdotes and leftwing chants and rants..."Hope and Change"...can't wait till that one is long forgotten though with the damage he has done it will probably be generations before people can look back and just see him as a footnote in history, because really, he is an anomaly and not much of one at that.
Hope you all change your minds and get a grip on reality...because come November 7 you will wake up to the most necessary change and there is no hope about it, only reality. ROMNEY/RYAN12
Hahahahahahaha....conceded? hahahahahahaha...he found the only positive to be Bill Clinton...in fact that is what the entire Democratic party found...and Bill is a has been. Also, as louse as Bill was he was 10 times the president that Obama will ever be. Obama wouldn't make a pimple on Bills Azz and Bill made that very clear in his speech. All Romney is doing is concurring with Bill's assessment of Obama which is what most Democrats are doing anyway. This election is over for Obama...the polls are fudge with white house threats to Gallup and it's so screwed that only Gallup now will skew the polls knowing it make them look incredibly stupid when even CNN's twisted poll doesn't agree with them. The Dems are on about 10 different pages, divided and disorganized in their message. Why, well because Obama can only tell us that he needs more time...time for what...56 percent of the country wants him to stop the track we are on and he wants us to reelect him so he can continue on with it. No matter how you cut it, we don't want to continue this track and it is all he has to offer. So good by Obama, hello Romney/Ryan 12....for all of you who think the independents are thoughtful considered voters, if they are then their mind have been made up for a long time, otherwise they are idiots and completely unpredictable with the exception of statistically they vote for the challenger. pull you heads outta ur azzs and think about something besides yourselves for a change, our children need a future and Obama is stealing it away from them. I'll say it again Romney/Ryan 12.
iraqiexpat - Keep saying it over and over but Rombot 's going to be toast in November. Congrats Romoney, retirement at last and forever!
Obama/Biden 2012!
I think all of the Republicans are all dumb. For Romney i think he just wants to be president to protect his wealth and the wealth of his fellow Republicans!
Oh now Leticia....that is like the pot calling the kettle black. Given what Obama has done and is going to do to the country if he is re-elected, then I guess you could say Republicans were the smart ones if they are only trying to protect their wealth. You Dems seem hell bent on giving yourselves and this country away....you are sooooo blind, but you WILL reap what you sew.
C-dog. The word is "sow" as in planting wheat. Stupid is as stupid does.
Come on Debs.... Really??? All the personal attacks??? Can you not just stick to the issues??? I thought afterall that you claim to be the party of acceptance and diversity! What happened??? HUM???
You know where to kiss it.... Sir Richard W. Jennings Author
Brownbackistan Administration Resistance Force (BARF)
Sound familiar Sir Richard W. Jennings Author from Kansas. You sound like a flaming Kansas liberal who just dislikes and attacks conservatives in any form. You really should not put your information on the web. You said it, "Stupid is as stupid does". Right?
clipperdog..when the republicans were turning in the surplus that clinton to a huge deficit, where you complaining, when they were rolling back regulations that got us into the financial crisis that brought all of this about where you complaining, when the rich got tax breaks that werent paid for where you complaining, come on man, come up with something original..we heard the tired rhetoric your side spout to many times
Clipperdog, Racists like you are the failure of this country.
libtard twat
Darrell
Congress is the one that controls the purse strings, not the president. That is how Clinton beat Gingrich on the shut down of the Government. Clinton Vetoed the spending bill, and Gingrich hadn't bothered to have a backup bill. Because there was no backup bill, Clinton HAD to shut the government down because as president, he cannot spend one penny without congressional approval
When Gingrich resigned in 1999, and those conservatives who brought you the balanced budgets quit because they had pledged to serve only a few terms, moderate Republicans then re-took the party.
Based on the rise of the Tea Party in 2009, the Republican party is shifting back toward being fiscally responsible.
It's not that there isn't truth in what you say, it is just only surface thinking and reacting.
DB, by your logic then... what is wrong with the congress of today? How come they can't balance a budget without President Clinton today? You can't have it both ways. All republicans have are lies. Just sayin'
It would be kind of fun if Biden had a 'health problem' or 'family emergency' and Bill Clinton was appointed as Vice President, wouldn't it? The only problem there is that Pres. Obama is actually loyal to the people who helped him become president, something we'll never see from the GOP.
But then, Romney is such a liar his dog won't come when he calls.
Oh wait...
Romney is a liar????? We have a half black President in the White House who does nothing but lie half the time, has only completed half the job he told us he would do, wants to cut the nation in half financially, has divided and polarized half the nation regarding race issues, and only actually works half the time he is awake between golf and traveling on AF One. I halfway think Romney is a much much better candidate than this half baked Kenyan who pretends he actually cares a damned about you or me or this country.
excess If I was has dog I'd run like hell. ☺
C-dog: I see you are a racist, too.
After having this Prez in office.. you bet your g-string I am....................... Oh, a lib playing the race card again, what a surprise.
Please don't feed the trolls. Or stray dogs.
This clown Romney has passed Newt Gingrich on the slimiest politician in the nation list. This dirtball will say anything, take any position, and tell any lie if he thinks it will gain him one more vote that it will cost him.
crook
charlie-1915998.......What the h... do you think obama's been doing for the last 4 years?????
Romney is a liar????? We have a half black President in the White House who does nothing but lie half the time, has only completed half the job he told us he would do, wants to cut the nation in half financially, has divided and polarized half the nation regarding race issues, and only actually works half the time he is awake between golf and traveling on AF One. I halfway think Romney is a much much better candidate than this half baked Kenyan who pretends he actually cares a damned about you or me or this country
What the h... do you think obama's been doing for the last 4 years????
Facts Republicans Hate:
Job losses per month in January 2008: 800,000
Job gains last month: 97,000
30 straight months of private sector job growth
GDP growth in 2008: negative 6%
GDP growth last year 2.9%
Dow Jones Average in January 2008: Under 8000
Dow Jones Average today: 12,700+
Record domestic oil production
GM – all time record profits
Near record corporate profits across the board
Osama Bin Laden --- dead
Iraq war --- over
I don't hate them, I just hate the President and want him gone. He has NOTHING to do with any of these statistics guaranteed, however innacurate some of them actually are.
Look on the bright side. Judging by the way this election is heading, you'll get to enjoy four more years of hating Obama. Isn't that what it's all about - hate and fear?
Between 2006 and 2008, Congress was controlled by Democrats in both the House and Senate Chamber.
Who controls the economy? The President or Congress? Yes, Administrations influence Economic policy, and I don't dismiss President Bush as being PARTLY responsible for the mess created as it happened on his watch. I don't dismiss the Democrats hand in it either. Perhaps you could ask Barney Frank why he pushed for Banks to give loans to those who couldn't afford them.
Obama criticized Bush for his use of Executive Privilege and then turns around and exerts the same in a case he said he had nothing to do with. He also has abused the use of Executive Orders to circumvent Congress. Obama criticized Bush for the Halliburton fiasco, which wasted hundreds of millions in taxpayer dollars. By comparison, that was small potatoes compared to Obama's failed Green Energy investments - which wasted billions. Obama also criticized Bush who spent 4 trillion in 8 years and called it "unpatriotic" and "irresponsible". He said he would cut the deficit in half, but instead has added over 5 trillion to the national debt in < 4 years.
If we apply Obama's own logic to the present situation, it would be unpatriotic and irresponsible to reelect him. No other President in history has been as blatantly hypocritical or done so much to set this country back. Obama's fiscal policy throws good money after bad and is like fighting fire by throwing gasoline on it. If Obama gets a second term, it would be like the Titanic backing up after it hit the iceberg and running into it a second time.
Charlie
sound great until you see the rest of the story.
the job losses slowed by March, before Obama's stimulus trickled onto the streets in May and June. That would mean that TARP is what rescued the system, not the stimulus.
Great! We need 23 Million jobs - you need 247 months like this to get these people jobs and you have need another 160,000 more jobs per month to give jobs to those just entering the labor force.
You banking system is over drawn, you are going to get a negative growth, that's life. But a weak recover has always been considered 4.5% growth in GDP. 2.9% and a 13,000 point stockmarket is reflective of inflation and 401K money being invested each month.
Since exploration is slowed to a crawl, Obama has opened more tracts for bidding, but few are being taken. Since Obama has been in office, 1/3 are deep water rigs have gone to Brazil, and 1/3 have gone to Africa. They are not going to return, unless the leasing procedures become reasonable again, currently it is taking 9 months to get approval when the process should only take 3 month minimu and 6 months maximum. Since off shore production is down 1/3 the rest is being obtained because of huge finds in the Dakotas. We have a lot of very poor farmers who are now millionaires! We could have even more, but Obama is not approving the rest of the Keystone Pipeline until after he is re-elected. I expect him to reject it again.
GM – all time record profits
Sounds Great. After the glowing report, investors do what investors do and that is find out why the profits were high. What we know since is that GM halted R & D on many products, put facility modernization off indefinitely. This is not the behavior of a healthy company, but of one bracing for a coming storm. There was a bright spot, Opel (GM in Europe) made a huge profit.
According to most democrats this is evil and Greedy. Now you want to take credit for it? Which is it. Is that good or bad?
Actually if the economy was steaming forward at a 4.5 - 6.5% Annual GDP Growth I'd give Obama a standing ovation. But it is not.
Record profits on a 1.5 - 2.0% GDP growth rate is companies not spending their capital improvement and expansion budget allocations. This says that they are preparing for trouble.
My wife got her annual notice of her health insurance premiums. It was going to go up, but by changing to higher co-pays, her health and dental will go down just a little bit. There wasn't a jump because there were no additional mandates scheduled this year, but next year the most expensive mandates are to hit starting on January renewals. I've heard numbers all over the board on this. Some say premium increases will be 40 - 50%. Some say more, some say less.
What's there to hate about this? You have some strange opinions about what Republicans think.
Um - that happened as scheduled by Bush. Yes, there was an out date set by Bush.
Mitt Romney was acknowledging Fmr.Pres. Bill Clintons' polished style,form,of speaking! Mitt Romney wasn't agreeing with Bill Clintons' points! Mitt Romney was emphasizing Bill Clintons electability if we were a Totalitarian Country! Hense the statement "If the Constitution weren't in his way, yeah. Perhaps. But I don't know the answer to that." If you want to twist that to some other meaning,freedom of speech allows it, Integrity doesn't, for me! Mitt Romney reffered to Fmr. President Bill Clinton as a centrist, compared to President Barack H. Obama! Fmr President Bill Clinton grew up on continental America,the influx of American Patriotism is inherent! President Barack H. Obama grew up in numerous locations away from stateside USA, as a child, the inherent American nature did not carry the same identification impact! Mitt Romney clearly understands that Fmr. President Clinton could run unchecked in Constitutional redress just like President Barack H. Obama, due to blind partisan loyalty! wallyworkswell@yahoo.com
You must have just watched Obama's American 2016. Except for a couple of years in Indonesia when he was just a small kid he grew up in Hawaii. If that is too foreign for you, you might want to go see it for yourself. It is America. The rest is bull@!$%#. The guy is as American as I am, probably more so since I spent 20 years in the Navy traveling around the world and seeing all those foreign places.
Complaining Obama is too far to the left might be worth discussing but not when you're running on a far right platform. I believe Romney isn't anywhere near Ryan as being a right wing extremist he may even believe in centrist policies but being beholden to his Norquist pledge and to the tea party whatever his personal views if elected he'll be bad news for the country. It's time republicans find a candidate that believes in what the majority of his constituents believe and refuse to sign anything to a corporate lobbyist.
R B: From what you are saying New Jersey is a foreign country. I better get a green card. ☺
Ya and Clinton still wants Obama to win
If Obama wins, Hilary can run in four years. Romney will win and she will likely not be running eight years from now.
Letica you are so dumb you can't even construct a proper sentence. Yea lets have four more years of this crap, we will all be on welfare which is what the Dem's want.
but smart enough to have Romney figured out.
fala/trazmo
Romney playing the role of total sycophant (again). Someone should tell him Clinton's ability won't rub off.
fala/trazmo
You must mean Clintons "I did not have sex with that girl" ability?! You are right.... he is an excellant story teller!
All Mitt knows about "elevate" is he has a car elevator in his new house. Seriously, the thought that he has foreign advisors from the Bush years is a frightening thought. Do we go back to the debacle of 2000 to 2008 when they invaded a country and then after the "war" was over the country fell apart because they did not plan well. We had thousands of our people die because of the neocons' mistake and thousands more innocents die because of the chaos that took place. Also, do you realize we still haven't paid for those two wars? Many paid with their lives, physical and mental health and families went though trauma but the American taxpayer never really has paid for those wars? We ALL were going to do all we could to help our country after 9/11 but we really didn't.
Don't forget, starting a war can get you elected for a second term no matter how bad you are as President -- Been there, done that.
Notice Bush didn't come to speak at the RNC.... I wonder why? How about George H too. I wonder why?
Romney admires Clinton for being a centrist yet runs on the far right platform. Maybe if republicans would try that and represent main street republicans instead of the tea party and Norquist they might win again.
Happening right now at Romney HQ: "Dammit, Mitt! How many times do we have to tell you? LIE! That's the only way you're getting elected. LIE!"
We don't care about no stinkin' fact checkers. Just lie. The ignorant and uninformed will believe anything you say as long as it's repeated enough times.
If Romney/Ryan are elected, this country is in a real hurt as we cannot stand another recession like the last one. Yes, the economy is growing much slower than anyone would like, and a lot of people are still hurting, but it is growing. Romney as said he will add 12 million jobs his first four years, which all the experts say is impossible and it will take at least another 6 or 7 years just to get back to square one. I suppose Romney will do the same thing he did at Bain. Close some businesses, out source more jobs, and only keep what he deems as the healthy ones open, with will just by chance be run by a few of his rich friends, Koch brother for one comes to mind.
Most economists say it takes a decade to fully recover from a deep credit-based recession. We're barely a third of the way there - it doesn't matter that much whether Obama, Romney or Jesus is in the WH. If Bush had a hypothetical third term he couldn't repair his own damage in four years.
There you have it, in white and black, just as Republicans like it. President Clinton and that other guy who isn't as good.
Democrat: Get out the vote!
Republican: Get the voters out!
On behalf of all veterans let Romney answer this ( I sent this to Mr/ Gregory in hopes of having it asked on Meet the Press, but I guess it didn't make the list of questions):
I am a Marine Combat Veteran and as such I would like to have more of a clarification on whey Mitt Romney chose not to acknowledge our fighting men and women during his RNC sp0each and am hoping that you could do me and my fellow veterans the favor of asking his this while he is on your meet the press program on Sunday morning. I tried contacting him through his tweeter account and have received no response. First i want to know why he chose to mention during his Fox interview, why he feels that as a candidate for Commander and Chief that he feels it is not only okay, but the laugh at it as well, to say that he thinks we are punch list items contained on a laundry list. Given the importance of this issue and especially seeing that the powers of the President include sending our troops both men and women into harm’s way, I feel he owes us an explanation. I also feel (especially as a Viet Nam vet that served two combat tours), that I as well as my fellow combat vets have a right to know why he chose as a young adult to not only request and receive one deferment while on his mission for his church, but upon his return he requested and requested three other deferments. If he says that he cared about the war then and the wars now, why did he choose to dodge the draft instead of enlisting in the military and serve his country. Given this information I would also like he explanation as to why he deserves to run for the Presidency and Commander in Chief?
Thank You in Advance My Fellow Veterans and Myself
Thank you for your service. God bless you.
Obama/Biden 2012
And the kicker is that, when the Vietnam War was over, Romney actually told people that he wished he could have served in the war. I kid you not !
I think it was not only disgraceful but also disrespectful that Romney didn't mention any of the military in his speech. He just doesn't seem to understand what's really important in this country. I guess he didn't want to remind anyone that we are still fighting a war. He acted as though we don't even have a military or a former president Bush.
My father, brother and uncles were all in the military and very proud of it. Thank you for your service and sacrifice! You deserve the utmost respect.
Did Barry serve in the military?
Thank you for your service , thank your family for their sacrifice, my son served while Mitts sons hid just like he did. God bless you .
Art
This will interest you.
HEhlers, Thank you for your service and God bless.
Willard never mentioned the war, or the troops, during his speech. Hell, the war and the troops weren't mentioned at all during the entire RNC convention. I would like to know why too.
Oh, wait, Willard responded on Friday, September 7, 2012, on FOX News, Willard Mitt Romney explained his reasons for not mentioning U.S. troops in his nomination to be President and Commander in Chief acceptance speech and the reason he regrets not mentioning them.
Apparently, he believes the military, which is an institution, is the same as the troops, who are human beings. And he only regrets it because the media, including FOX News, won't shut up about it.
FOX News' BRETT BAIER: To hear several speakers in Charlotte, they were essentially saying that you don’t care about the U.S. military because you didn’t mention U.S. troops and the war in Afghanistan in your nomination acceptance speech. Do you regret opening up this line of attack, now a recurring attack, by leaving out that issue in the speech.
WILLARD MITT ROMNEY: I only regret you’re repeating it day in and day out. When you give a speech you don’t go through a laundry list, you talk about the things that you think are important and I described in my speech, my commitment to a strong military unlike the president’s decision to cut our military. And I didn’t use the word troops, I used the word military. I think they refer to the same thing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tVPscytI3DI
“I longed in many respects to actually be in Vietnam and be representing our country there, and in some ways it was frustrating not to feel like I was there as part of the troops that were fighting in Vietnam.” - Mitt Romney 2007
“It was not my desire to go off and serve in Vietnam, but nor did I take any actions to remove myself from the pool of young men who were eligible for the draft” - Mitt Romney 1994
Romney applied for and received four deferments, which sounds exactly like taking actions to remove himself from the draft.
Beside educational deferments, he applied for and received a deferment for religious reasons and went to Paris, France as a missionary where he lived in a mansion that has been described as a palace with a servant and a cook. The mansion has since been the United Arab Emirates embassy and is worth about $12 million.
He also demonstrated in favor of the Vietnam War draft.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2083002/Mitt-Romney-19-demonstrated-favour-Vietnam-War-draft.html
Hehlers, as a fellow Viet Nam combat vet,I agree with everything you stated. But to answer the question about his lack of service, he had a physical problem,"NO GUTS."
Thanks Willard, Democrats do have Bill Clinton!...Yeah
...but, but, why haven't you trotted out Dubya?...oh, wait I know......nevermind!
Bush was never president, according to these guys.
Yup, Dubya, is a man without a Party!....Personna non grata!...lol
They loved him before they hated him!
Bush was President in title only, everyone with half a brain knows Cheney ran the show. Need proof, look at 9/11. Who's at a school that can't be bothered and who was in the bunker hiding like a coward?
Clinton and Obama released several years of tax returns, as have all presidential candidates for decades, except one.
Clinton and Obama gave factual speeches with details, as have all presidents since Ford, except one.
Obama talked about his plans for the next four years, as have all presidential candidates, except one.
Romney required Ryan to release his taxes to him to qualify for the VP position.
ROMNEY 1040???
Clinton showed the strategy to take apart the Republicans point by point to expose their twisted state of affars. Show that same leadership style and back it up with FACTS and you will have the independant voters all to yourself. Voters want the facts to support the party platforms rather than the same old hot air that all politicans spew..
The Democratic Convention was a TOTAL JOKE!! You libs just just live on idealism instead of realism. I NEVER heard one plan (actually from either side) on how we are going to stop this runaway train that just crossed the 16 trillion mark and it is going faster and faster. All you people just talk about his how Clinton and Michelle Obama and Barrack had great one liners and promised you idiots with a tear in their eye everything from high paying jobs and free school and low mortgage rates and how wonderful and caring all of them are for us if you just vote them back into office. ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!! WAKE UP AMERICA, we are being fleeced by these schmucks!!
Romney and Ryan don't care about you as much as you seem to care about them. What's their plan? No one knows. It must be a secret just like his tax returns. I don't vote a party line. Always trying to listen and research to decide. Everyone keeps sticking up for Romney/Ryan but I haven't hear one word as to what the plan is. Only the rich could support them.
Cdog
Just how are we being fleeced?
Ever heard this one clipperdog? Finger pointers always have three pointing back at themselves. You're stuck sir. Lack of oxygen? Lack of light? Fearful hater of things you cannot possibly grasp.
CNBC.com compared the S&P 500 performance under the last 6 Presidents (3
Dems & 3 Repubs) during their first 43 months in office. The results show
the S&P performed best under President Obama and back-up Bill Clinton’s
arithmetic:
Recall in his mostly adlib speech before DNC2012, Bill Clinton used
arithmetic to show that since 1961, Dems had the White House 24 yrs vs. Repubs
for 28 yrs. Over that time, 66 million American private sector jobs were
created:
Clipperdog, if you heard Obama's speech, you know that he DID talk about the national debt. He brought deficit-cutting proposals to the Republicans, but they insisted on preserving the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. Obama refused to do that. I'm with him on this. Wealthy Americans have lower taxes now than at any time in the last century, but that's not good enough for Republicans. They talk about "sacrifice", but they only people they want to make sacrifices are the poor and the needy, while the rich get a free ride. If you really care about the 16 trillion debt, then support the President and ask the rich to pay their fair share!
Listen up people, the Koch brothers know one thing "Money wins elections" and they are puring more bucks into thruthless ads than anyone has ever done in the past. To talk like Barry has this in the bag will only cause apathy among those who
only vote if they are in the mood. Get everyone to the polls, even if you have to drag 'em, if you want Obama elected because the Koch brothers are faoming at the mouth right now and they don't care what they spend because they know they will get it all back if Romney wins. One more thing...America succeeds when there is a middle class with disposable income out there willing to buy the "job creators" products. Don't let this income gap between these old white guys club and us continue to widen. The unions, need to become relavent again, and get back to the job of helping create that middle class in the manner in which they used to. (i.e. reasonable, viable, contracts) that keep the profitablity of all parties in focus.
You bet I will get out there.....where do I donate to the Koch brother's fund again???
Yes, it is really terrible that the election will be bought. The rich really do own this country. They have to spend lots of money spewing their lies. That's the only way that Romney/Ryan could ever win. Why else are the Repubs (also known as the party of hate) going all out to suppress voting in high traffic democratic areas? There's no way they could win with fairness and integrity. They don't seem to know what those words even mean.
And all those poor, Trailer Park TeaBaggers support it via their ignorant, arm-waving, lockstep approach to what they think is real politics. Makes you wonder what depth of personal hatred is required in order to induce someone to vote entirely and vehemently against their own fiscal and social interests, year after year...
Btw, I'm voting just to take personal satisfaction in seeing all those casino and oil millions go completely to waste.
Really Dems??? Can you please stop the personal attacks??? Afterall, I thought you tout that you are the party of acceptance and diversity.... HUM??? Let's stick to the issues and try to make this a better place to live! We need jobs, strong families and good neighbors, as well as, a strong foundation and to some of us that is our faith. We need to be UNITED, not DIVIDED!
I agree, but you should tell to stop personal attacks to not only democrats, but also to republicans. After all, republicans are the ones that have blocked the president in so many issues and their goal is to make him look bad when they should, work all together to accomplish good things. All I heard at the republican convention was personal attacks to the president including a tasteless appearance by Eastwood, why don't you tell them to stop personal attacks to them too?
We 'accept' fully that Rmoney/Ryan are nothing short of monumentally moronic and doggedly deleterious.
Btw, why is it that no Repub in this country is able to distinguish between satire and character assassination, anyway? It's because satire is based on truth, and the GNOP has been devoid of that for decades - just look at what fabulous fibs R&R have had to concoct in order to have anything to run on at all...
If it takes a disgraced former President that was unfaithful to his own wife while in the White House (with sex acts and a BJ from a 20 year old aide) impeached for lying about it to the American people in order to "elevate the Democrat convention", how low was that convention?
Obama's uber, left wing, base was fired up and salivating at Rev. Wright style rhetoric used by this President to extol his "Eat the Rich" plans for society but according to polls it was the only group that was. Polls indicate Obama's remarks didn't fly well with independents and centrists who've yet to make up their minds about who they'll support!
So why should all of our godly TeaVangelicals even think about supporting a Mormonic candidate whose presidency is being bought by a godless Jewish casino mogul with profits derived from godless gamblers, anyway? Sorry, but Sanitorium never had a chance (as with Huckablob).
(News Flash - Rev. Wright is still a Christian, though...)
Rev. Wright is a typical egomanicial bible thumper. No one in his congregation should be blamed for his hot headedness.
If the reverend had posed his statement as a question, we might not be so de-feathered. How about: "IS GOD DAMNING US NOW" for our actions?
It makes one think.