Today's program showed that the debate over which candidate is right for the economy continues. Governors John Kasich (R-OH) and Deval Patrick (D-MA) traded jabs over both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama's economic record.
Kasich said this week's unemployment numbers "frighten" him and called dysfunction in Washington one of the reasons for it.
He also argued that some of the blame should go towards his own party. "You think I'm happy with the fact that I left Washington and the Republicans that controlled everything blew the budget up?" Kasich asked rhetorically. "No," he answered.
However, Kasich maintained that most of the blame must go to the top. "The executive is not leading," he said.
Governor Patrick, on the other hand said a do-nothing Congress is a major part of the economic turmoil. "What we have right now is a Congress which has decided that there is a political advantage in stymieing this president, putting ideology ahead of country."
You can watch the entire program on our website to hear more from governors as well as our political roundtable featuring Romney Senior Adviser Kevin Madden, Republican strategist Alex Castellanos, President of the Center for American Progress Neera Tanden, and Atlanta’s Mayor Kasim Reed (D).
Plus a special conversation with former Senator and Democratic presidential candidate Bill Bradley on his new book "We Can All Do Better" as well as what is needed to break the gridlock in Washington.
We're off next Sunday for NBC Sports coverage of the French Open. We'll be back the following week.
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My concern is time spent talking about important matters by rote.EX: why do all Tea Party Coser hate everything Admin for (Democrats same) such as public unions,schools,etc when they thenselves benefited in most their lives.?
Had previous comment?? Most discussions center on answers by rote,nothing new.You tried to get Kasich O admit Admin played positive role improving econ Ohio. He,like other Tea Party Cons (and Demon) so depend on Norquist,money,Pacs they cease exist as leaders.Why not stick w/facts,not verbage.
I heartily agree, TrainJM!
I am so upset by the governors' "sawing" debate and how politicians continously speak pass one another with over-rehearsed words - I turned my television completely off within the first ten minutes of this segment.
I am not new to political talk-shows at all - but I must be reaching my saturation point, because to me Governor Kasich is voicing talking points, Governor Patrick spoke haltingly/clearly as if needing time to collect his thoughts (sorry Governor P), and David Gregory did not get in there and force both men to move the conversation forward as befits "Meet The Press". My honest takeaway.
As a result, I got online and actually hunted this blog down to express my dissatisfaction with what I thought from the early advertisments of a "debate" would be an energetic, informative, and higher mental faculty experience for me.
I am so sorry, David Gregory. I never intended my first comment on "Meet The Press" ever, to be posted this way.
Pretty dull interview of Kasich & Patrick - both of them talked more about themselves than the Presidental candidates they support. They both must be running for election.
Right! If Kasich had mentioned how wonderful he'd been in Ohio one more time, I was going to turn off the TV! Mitt might want to choose his spokespeople a little more carefully as Kasich thought he was there to promote himself. Everything came back to Ohio and Kasich, with no credit to Obama for saving the auto industry.
I'm so sick and tired of the media, and other broadcast venues and interviewers across the country, letting people time after time after time stray away from the facts. As morally right as we all say we try to be, I hear more LIES coming out of peoples mouth with no regard for the TRUTH. Romney, Tea Party & the GOP LIE LIE LIE via ads, interviews, super pacs, surrogates and no one every calls these people on their blatant disregard for the truth. People know how we got in this economic mess, and what the GOP have been trying to do since day1, so why are we setting the stage, like this is about the economy, its not its about POWER. The GOP could be out of power for along time, which they should be, since they got us all into this MESS in the first place. So instead of being true patriot's to the America they profess to love, they choose instead to destroy it and besmirch a President's reputation who has been by all accounts a great leader under the circumstances of his taking office, and dealing with the inherited MESS of the country & the economy at a very vulnerable time in American history. A reminder of the MESS our great America was in:
An assimilation of Facts per the voice of the American people and the
deception perpetrated on us all!
Now the Right Wing is Mad
After The 8 Years Of The Bush/Cheney Disaster, Now You Get Mad?
You didn't get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and
appointed a President.
You didn't get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate
Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq.
You didn't get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
You didn't get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
You didn't get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat
to us.
You didn't get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said
illegal war.
You didn't get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than
the previous 42 Presidents combined.
You didn't get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in
Iraq.
You didn't get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
You didn't get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that
shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.
You didn't get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping
Americans.
You didn't get mad when we didn't catch Bin Laden.
You didn't get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.
You didn't get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
You didn't get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.
You didn't get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could
spend, the filthy rich, over a trillion dollars in tax breaks.
You didn't get mad with the worst 8 years of job creations in several
decades.
You didn't get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because
they had no health insurance.
You didn't get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush
Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments,
retirement, and home values. You didn't get mad when 4000+ and counting
Men & Women along with the thousands upon thousands of maimed and disfigured Military have been killed in an illegal war.
You finally got mad when a black man was elected President and decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick. Yes, illegal wars, lies,
corruption, torture, job losses by the millions, stealing your tax dollars to
make the rich richer, and the worst economic disaster since 1929 are all okay
with you, but helping fellow Americans who are sick...Oh, Hell
No!!
Excellent post. Unfortunately so many Americans are ignorant of what is going on. For example, I saw on a local issues show here in Washington State this morning an old timer who said he was going to vote for the Republican for our next Governer because of the 2nd Amendment. His only issue is the one issue that no one on either side anywhere has even mentioned since the Clinton administration. He is convinced that there is a threat to the 2nd Amendment that doesn't exist - so much so that he ignores the issues that are on the table such as health care, job creation, Wall Street reform, tax rates, etc. This sort of uneducated voter frightens me.
Galactic(space cadet) Massager & Bob, somehow as I read your post, in my mind I picture Galactic in a complete aluminum suit(complete with hat) and Bob on a leash. Thankfully(for you both) after spewing nothing but liberal mantra, you have the both of you to agree with each other, GET A ROOM. Everything, and I mean everything you posted was a LIE. If the debt and unemployment numbers were the same now as they were under Bush, we wouldn't be worried about the economy. Illegal war, unlike Libya Bush asked and got support from Congress(including Democrats). Thank God, Gore never got any closer to the White House than VP. Who let New Orleans DROWN, did they not have a mayor and Governor, and oh yeah weren't they Democrat? And I thought the HCR debacle was jammed down Americas throat was to save 2 million uninsured children(which is a lie because federal law prevents hospitals from denying patients care). No CIA agent was outed, the woman appeared in a "whose's who magazine which listed her job as CIA, and was a well known Washington socialite, again everyone knew she was CIA(and was not involved in covert CIA operations). Finally it was the Community Re-Investment Act passed by Jimmy Carter(Dem) that caused the housing market to collapse.
Kasich made a statement that Romney was the 30th in job creation in the United States when he was governor and YOU didn't challenge that fact. (I've been searching for "proof" of this and I sure can't find it!!!) When you let these people get on there and LIE to the American Public and YOU don't challenge them when they do, YOU do NO service to your viewers.
If I want to hear any of their fantasies, I can listen to their ads - I REALLY expect MORE from your show, but it seem I never get it!!
GOOD WORK FOR THE GOP AGAIN DAVID!!!!! Have you considered moving to FOX NEWS where you now belong? Softball with GOP folks and attack the Dems your new approach. Meet the Press now a GOP MACHINE!!!!!!
David you allow GOP reps to LIE!!!!!! 30th in JOBs in MASS is BS and you say NOTHING!!!!! FOX NEWS would love to have you!!!! GO please!!!!
SOFTBALL on the birther issue too!!!!!!!! good GOP work!!!!!!!
I am thoroughly disappointed with Meet the Press and David Gregory's stewardship of this once respected program. It has become increasingly dominated by right wing filibustering, obfuscation and deliberate misinformation, aided and abetted by the host.
A moderator of such an important program ought to have some mastery of facts to counter outright falsehoods such as "Mitt Romney left Massachusetts 30th in the nation" when it is common knowledge that this is not true. It is also common knowledge that Ohio benefitted greatly from President Obama's auto rescue, which is why Kasich can boast such low unemployment figures.
Kevin Madden said that the stimulus was a trillion dollar infrastructure bill. Really? It was actually an 800 billion dollar bill with aid to states and the single biggest middle class tax CUT in US history. David should know this. He should not allow people to lie on his show. Repeatedly.
After today's softball exercise in "let's see if I can force one of these guys to make a gaffe!", I am not wasting any more of my time on a program that insults our collective intelligence.
Meet the Press needs a new host with journalistic courage or it will fade into obscurity.
It is sad to see the recent rightward slant of MTP. but it is not surprising. Look at who advertises on it and even on this website. Do you think Boeing advertises on MTP to try to sell you and me airplanes? Of course not. The military industrial complex advertises on MTP and This Week and all the others so that they can threaten to pull their $$$ if the conversation doesn't go their way.
Love the tirade by "Galactic Messenger" here. Right on, buddy. The thing that pisses me off about these Sunday morning political talk shows is that they have become nothing more than a glaring and maddening microcosm of what is wrong with politics in America and America in general. They just get two guests every week whose political viewpoints are diametrically opposed to each other and let each of them just spew out their "I'm right and you're wrong" opinions every week, ad nauseum. Why doesn't the host of any of these shows try to get their guests to ever talk about what they might agree on and how they can meet in the middle and compromise and get something actually done? That never happens. It's always "My way is the right way, the only way, and I am going to do everything I can to bury you and your point of view, and I will never do anything to help you succeed." It is so inherently sick and twisted and perverted and maddening that this morning, after trying to watch a bit of George Stephanopoulis and David Gregory, I turned them both off in disgust and vow not to watch those programs any longer.
The number of jobs created seems to be of immense importance. If 100 jobs are created to replace 100 jobs lost, it means nothing.
Also, the salary for the replacement (not new) jobs must be taken into account. For example:
A worker at a plant is earning $40,000 a year working a 40 hour week with full benefits. This worker becomes unemployed because the plant closes and 100 jobs are lost. Another plant opens and 100 jobs are "created". The starting salary for the same job this worker had before is now only $12,000. Also, the hours are only 37 per week so no benefits are given.
How can this qualify as "job creation". This is what has been achieved:
A worker becomes unemployed and collects unemployment insurance while looking for work and the benefits are about to run out. These "new jobs" become available. The worker must take it or their family will become homeless.
A company has managed to increase their profits by closing one plant, opening another, and hiring the same people back at 1/3 of the wages and no benefits. Not only did the company increase its profits and executives line their pockets, but they've managed to increase the population of the working poor.
It seems to be forgotten that the majority of "poor" people in this country are working.
Let's take a closer look at what the "job creation" numbers really mean.
Excellent point, well stated.
Your post harkens to the "Vulture Chart" data that Ed Schultz frequently talks about. It shows that in the past 30 years the income of the top 1% has increased by 240% while the average income has increased by something like 10%. Your post points out how it was done: They pitted one American against another, moving factories from one part of the country to another. Then when there was no cheaper labor to be found in the US, they moved them overseas. But don't dare mention this. The righties will say wanting the average salary to grow as fast at the top 1% is class warfare.
All smoke and mirrors....
It is truly frightening that this is not something that the general public realizes and that it has not been talked about by either party and certainly not by the media. Do people REALLY not see this or am I missing something....
It's just a shell game.
What A"Meet the Press"wonder how"Face the Nation"kicking David ASS weekly.@.What about"Meet the Dress"with Republican fake SUIT.@.This is the time when MEDIA should be forgotten,that there is something greater and more enduring in this country than media victories;that good citizenship and patriotism are still American VIRTUES.@
I wonder why you did not challenge Kasich regarding his comments about the rise in employment due to his policies as he attacked Obama? Ohio employment is up because of the car industry. Tax cuts have done nothing. You tend to let him speak and you shorten Duval's comments. You are supposed to be non-partisan, what happened?
Mr. Kasich stated he supports Romney because of his business experience and business college education MBA from Harvard.
George W. Bush holds a MBA degree from an Ivy League University, and made over 10 million dollars from his borrowed investment in the Texas Rangers baseball team.
Bush stated he was going run the US government like a corporation.
During Bush's Presidency the US loss 8 million jobs, by giving tax credits to ship American jobs overseas.
Bush created a bubble encomny with deregulation - Bush's Ownership Society with liar real estate loans and Wall Streets - Collateral Debt Obligations.
Resulting in a total collapse of the US Finacial and Investing System with the American taxpayer bailing out the largest insurance corporation in the world AIG, all the largest banks in the world, Bank of America, Citi Bank, JPMorgan Chase, and our largest auto manufacturer General Motors.
Bush started with a surplus budget, thanks to President Clinton, and with national deficit of 5.2 trillion dollars, Bush left with 10. 5 trillion national deficit.
And because the infamous Bush tax cuts are still in effect, two wars and Medicare part D without paying for them - have to give credit for the additional 5 trillion of debt to the Republican Congress and Bush - totaling 15 trillion dollars of national debt.
Presidents Obama and Clinton both have law degrees with President Clinton presiding overthe greatest economic expansion in US history, with over 22 million jobs being created.
With President Obama creating 4.4 millions jobs after inheriting an economic mess from Bush and getting no help from the economic traitors tea party Republicans.
Voting for President Obama because he creates jobs. And wants to stop give tax credits for shipping jobs overseas.
Bush when with the Texas Rangers traded Sammy Sosa who hit over 6 hundred home runs, and Sosa made over a hundred millions dollars and really earned it thru great box office attendance. Bush should give his ten million dollars back because he didn't earn it and for trading Sosa.
Hey economic traitor Republicans where's the Shared Sacrifice for the wealthy?